# How Behaviour-Driven Development (BDD) Happened-airhacks.fm podcast

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The #422 airhacks.fm episode with Daniel Terhorst-North (@tastapod@mas.to) about:

Daniel Terhorst-North explains how BDD grew out of teaching TDD without the word test, how given when then, Cucumber and Gherkin emerged from that work, and how examples, EARS and rules enforced outside the LLM apply to spec-driven development with coding agents.

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