# "Meta-Circularity is Near", GraalVM, Truffle--airhacks.fm podcast

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The #78 airhacks.fm episode with Thomas Wuerthinger (@thomaswue) about:

writing JVM in Java, meta-circular optimizations, Maxine, 
inner workings of GraalVM, 
Truffle and JavaScript on GraalVM

is available for download.

Also checkout the first part "The Competitive Programmer".